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Thursday, February 15, 2007

Going abroad???!!!!!?!?!?!

Couple of things were confusing or rather bugging for the past few days. Amidst which I was happy to see two awesome templates given by Sanjayan and Ranjhith. : ) Thanks a lot. Oru paarattu vizha vekkalamnu yerpadu aitu iruku ;) Hehehe.. Manamarntha Nanrigal! :) Will put those in few days since this was replaced only few days ago. So wait to see the nice template friends.
Matter'ku varen ;)


Disclaimer: This post might not be interesting to some and even bugging for few of my friends :)

It was astounding to see many people leaving abroad for jobs these days.Till the age of 21 or 22 we are busy with our studies. Finishing the high school, getting admission in a good college to get a degree. And our parents are busy earning to spend for these expenses along with the day to day life expenditures. Somewhere after the age of 23 people get opportunities to go abroad and make a decent earning. Am entitled to do a clarification at this point. Am not talking about foreign visits in which case you stay there for some time and get back to your home land. Am talking about staying there for a very long duration and about settling there. Foreign opportunities will give you international exposure, experience in competitive world, stabilizes one's financial status. True, agreed. But all these at what cost?

* In many homes, this might be the time where the parents might have quit the career under the name Voluntary retirement or retirement. They might want to spend more time with their children or grand children. One has to miss this good time being with the family together.
* If the person has kids then the kids are missing the grand parents love & affection, the bed time stories and so on.
* Festivals like Pongal,Diwali,Christmas are being missed.
* Missing friends and relatives.
* We as sons and daughters should give a supporting hand to parents when they are in need of. No parents would even let us know that they want us to be with them. One reason- Pride takes control ;) and the second - They after all wants us to be happy. But its we the kids who should give moral and financial support when really needed without being asked or hinted for.


Early days people came from village to towns and cities for job opportunities since they had no opportunities in villages. But now India is not like that. It is just that we are aspiring for more in all aspects. As far as money is concerned, 'contentness' is a word which can never be used. First, one might want to stay abroad for a year or more to buy a car for your home in India and then another couple of years to built a house and many more years and many more commitments. All these small things which would make a happy home might appear negligible in comparison with the money, luxury and experience we earn abroad. But in the long run what do we earn in life apart from money? In the process of earning we miss many nice and pleasant things. I DON'T MEAN one should restrict going abroad but rather limit the time spending away from home, friends and relatives. A person settling in U.S or U.K, is it not like plucking a plant from its field rooting it in a different Island. Is life, all about spending 20 years of mechanical life at home land and then flying away from home and spending the rest of your life miles away???

1. Am not talking about going abroad but staying there forever
2. Am not talking just about home but also many other pleasant things being in your home land.
3. Finally, staying for few days or settling forever is one's own wish ;)

146 comments:

Santhosh said...

I dont think most people move abroad with the intention of staying our of their homelands forever. I have known people who were passionate about being India, and after graduation, when presented with lucrative opportunities, quickly moved out (and now struggling to come back!)

I dont think the problem is as uni-dimensional as you presented. May be you will realize soon!

Neo said...

Even i feel the same that going abroad is fine, but shouldnt get setteled there. I think, things are changing now and people realise that. India is developing a lot, and we get decent pay here plus foreign trips for 6 months to 1 year shouldnt be an issue...

Nice post, should be visible mostly to the NRI's ;)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Santhosh
Yeah..I didnt mean that intention is 2 stay tehre..But we get drifted away slowly is what i mean :)

//I dont think the problem is as uni-dimensional as you presented. May be you will realize soon!//

True! I discussed with couple of young as well as elderly people who are in abroad for short and long duration but was nt satisfied with the responses. May b as u said self realisation is the best answer. Agreed.

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Neo
//India is developing a lot, and we get decent pay here plus foreign trips for 6 months to 1 year shouldnt be an issue...//
Very true. When we get everything here Y miss something and go there ;)

mani said...

Hi Queen,
I totally agree with you. People at first come here to stay for a short term and then go back. But people get tempted by the luxury, money here and they get settled here. Inga varalaam. 4 to 5 ys stay and earn well. Then go back to India. Come back whenever got an opportunity. Sacrificing valuable, priceless parent's love, friends, fun, frolic at home just for money is worthless and meaningless. I am in US and i get tempted at times. But I am strong enough and had decided to stay here for a period of 3 to 4 yrs to ensure a financial safe guard for my parents, sister. Then I would go back to my country and enjoy my rest of the life. If i get a chance i might go back to US but only for a shorter term. US life is just a mayakannadi and nothing real in it.

மு.கார்த்திகேயன் said...

/Is life, all about spending 20 years of mechanical life at home land and then flying away from home and spending the rest of your life miles away???//

A heart-break question, ponna

I have the limitations what you were telling. I dont love to stay here for long time.

Good POst ponna:-)

The Talkative Man said...

ok, ok..you must be nearing 22 now. Indha maari thathuvam pesara vayasu adhu dhaan :)

The Talkative Man said...

Pesama law padichirundha you cud have become veerappan's lawyer and saved his life :p

Amimu said...

many people are now coming back to india. the main reason is kids.
i am myself planning to come back in 3-4 years once my daughter hits schooling . many of my friends ame back before their kids are in 5th std. after that its difficult.

but life in US is definitely an experience and these days living in Bay Area is like in TNagar only. restaurants, temples, dance classes are so many. the arangetrams in US are comparable to those in chennai.
definitely you miss somethings, but gain something else. the hospitals/doctors are good, there are lot of room for physical activity - running/hiking/camping etc, work is not as stressful as in india, overall life in india is more stressful.

mystery said...

agree with u da..we surely miss diwali and pongal celebrating der...but on the other hand we do gain some good experience...
without living in 2 diff places..u wont be able to compare which one is better...like i became more patriotic toward india after i came here...cuz i started to realize the value of our land...
at the same time...der r some things which i miss about canada..when i go back home...
ppl can still be in US and be as much connected to their mother land...:))
but i am for sure planning to go back home once i finish my studies...:)

...speaking by experience...:D

The Devil said...

onsite has become a part n parcel of software engineers life...so goin abroad n comin back has become quite routine....settling there has its only pro been the monetary gain as u mentioned...but we are paying the price by missing our loved ones....now it has changed the mental tendency of people too...evry 1 goes, so why not me...but some people do go there for visiting places and meeting new people....anyway if u have plans for settlement u gonna miss ur loved ones a lot, a gud post and a rare coincidence that i wanted to write about it and ended up in posting some thing else

P.S. yaarayo kuthi kaamikkara maadhiri irukkey :)

betmo said...

you are talking about something that has happened here in the states- not necessarily going abroad- but moving away from friends and family- the root system of a culture- and following the jobs. america today is generic and cookie cuttered and really doesn't have as much of the 'american culture' that it used to- more of a consumeristic strip mall mentality. if you lose your root system, you have lost your way of life. it is good that you have seen this. progress and change will happen but it doesn't have to be to the detriment of culture and family.

Shiv said...

seri..unakaaga i will postpone my trip..:P

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Mani
Thanks for dropping by :)
//But I am strong enough and had decided to stay here for a period of 3 to 4 yrs to ensure a financial safe guard for my parents, sister. Then I would go back to my country and enjoy my rest of the life.//
Great decision :) Very true as well.. :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Karthikeyan
Thats very nice :) And am glad 2 know tht.

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ The talkative Man
Hahaha..So u must be nearing btween 25 to 30??? Intha vayasula thaan pesravan ellam kenayan maariyum naama ulaga magan maariyum thonum :P Jus kidding..

//Pesama law padichirundha you cud have become veerappan's lawyer and saved his life :p//

Summa summa Mr. Veerappan ilukrathu nalla ila.. :(

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Amimu
Welcome here :)

//i am myself planning to come back in 3-4 years once my daughter hits schooling . //

Thats very nice of u. And u have mentioned bunch of things that would make u feel that u r in home land. Y look for compensations when u really don't have 2. Money & experience are the only two things that pull people abroad. In the long run, one would surely regret for missing many things for these two. It might appear negligible now but in the long run it matters more than what it appears now :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Mystery
//ppl can still be in US and be as much connected to their mother land...:))//

Ellam solitu kavuthutiye :P
This is actually surprising we are all looking for alternatives for the real pure and ever lasting love & affection :(

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ The devil
Welcome sir :)

Yeah u spoke my words ;) Its like running in a competition and after reaching the destination, may it be 1st or last, its like "what 2 do now". This running phase is what is equivalent to living there and reaching the destination is 'settling there' and finally u feel so what now...

//a gud post and a rare coincidence that i wanted to write about it and ended up in posting some thing else//

Why so???

//P.S. yaarayo kuthi kaamikkara maadhiri irukkey :)//

Ayayo ithu yenna vamba pochu :>

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Betmo

//progress and change will happen but it doesn't have to be to the detriment of culture and family.//

This is what i wantd 2 convey and u did in just 2 lines :) Thanku for dropping by..

Once a person loses culture, family unity, then raises the question 'What is he and what he is after all trying 2 do'

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Shiv
Postpone? :O
Shiv i think u wanted 2 tell CANCEL ;) LOL

Ranjhith said...

>Thanks a lot. Oru paarattu vizha vekkalamnu yerpadu aitu iruku ;)

Thanks too. Then vizhavuikku chief guest yaarunga? >:OP

"திரைக்கடல் ஓடியும் திரவியம் தேடு" innu யாரோ சொல்லியிருக்காங்க. So nothing wrong. Ppl hav enjoyed all their parents/friends & relatives in their young ages. Now its time to look beyond! கிணற்று தவளை மாதிரி, we shouldn't be.

If you are settling out of India, take your parents there atleast once in 3 years or so. Take a long vacation, come & visit all ur relatives/friends here. While you come here bring ur foreign friends & families. Take traditions/cultures/superstitions from here to your places of stay. Tell people about how you feel for your folks back home. There is love & kindness everywhere. Relationships & bonding needs some effort thats all.

Outsourcing wudn't hav happened if no people stayed out of their homes. It was so, this World would be illeterate of the 3rd world countries. Think abt it. Cheers!

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Ranjhith
I guess i have made my point very clear saying that am nt after all against- Going abroad. But settling there :) And thiraviyam thedunu thaan sonnanga ;) Theditu varathannu solala..Also thedrathu is for benefiting the home land.

//Outsourcing wudn't hav happened if no people stayed out of their homes//

Answer paper thiruthura maari padichey u got used i think.. :)
Kinathu thavalaya yaaru irukka sonna. Go 2 differnt places, earn money, experience, take a good lesson, learn good things and forget the bad one's. But All these having in mind 2 get back HOME :)

Ranjhith said...

> But All these having in mind 2 get back HOME :)

What woud hav happened when ppl like LaksmiMittal, VinodhKoshla or SunithaWilliams have thought like this? >:OP

Whats there with "HOME"?? I guess, its the family only. Find a new "HOME" & take them there. We shouldn't be tied with such sentiments, you know? >:O)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Ranjhith
Home or homeland Obviously it means family members and loved ones.. :-/
I dont think u r any closer 2 what am trying 2 convey :|

Nirek said...

nalla sonninga!
I was thinking abt the same while during my travel. Sorkageme endralum namma ooru pola varuma??

People who stays back in abroad knows what they miss. but still they don't come back ebcos they lost their survival ability in home country.
Non-returning Indians state is really bad and pathetic.

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...
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Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Nirek

Hm..Yeah u r rite..
//Sorkageme endralum namma ooru pola varuma??//

Trust me ;) Earlier titled this post as wt u have stated..Appalika maathiten.. :) Ipo ellam neraya peru speaking my words :P

Ranjhith said...

> I dont think u r any closer 2 what am trying 2 convey :|

Kovuchukaatheenga. I too believe that coming back to our HomeLand is the best thing to do. As we shud never ignore the country that has done so much. Also parenting & child education will be good here.

But, I was about to say that we shudnd fall for family-ties & get back. We shudn't fume after coming here. The willingness/motivation shud be something else, may be to be a part of India Biz developement, education...

Cheers! >:O)

k4karthik said...

words r very much true ponnarasi!!

but, not most of the ppl those who go for job in US or UK wants to settle down there.. May be a few... Ppl r very much clear now than ppl before...

:: The Protector :: said...

Ummm... ippathan orupidi yochika aaraimbuchu irukka :) (jus kiddin)

Good topic...

Earn There, Spend here....

to get sumthng we need to compromise certain thing but not everything :)

Cheers
:)

Syam said...

hmmmm...india la irundhu indha maathiri kostins ketka nalla irukum...inga vandhu indha cold la dog maathiri kasta patta therium...personally I agree with all your points...enna panrathu ennoda head letter inga vandhu maatikanumnu :-)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@Ranjhith

//I too believe that coming back to our HomeLand is the best thing to do.//

Hm... :)

//The willingness/motivation shud be something else, may be to be a part of India Biz developement, education...//

Y shud it be something else.. May b perception differs :) I feel family pulls you more than anything :) Its like one is more commited 2 the family than anything :)

Thanku for clearing what u feel..

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ K4kartik
//not most of the ppl those who go for job in US or UK wants to settle down there.. May be a few... Ppl r very much clear now than ppl before...//

If this is the case.No issues @ all.

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Protector
//to get sumthng we need to compromise certain thing but not everything :)//

Ayoo Nachu! :) Ippo than neenga olunga pesa kathutu irukeenga :P
LOL..
Naa ethayum vechukrathey ila ;) Thiruppi kuduthuduven! :p

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Syam
Ellamey namma kaila thaney iruku :>

Etho santhosama iruntha seri ;)

KK said...

Good Post and Good kostins :)
Reading lot of posts on this topic on many blogs... in tact I have a topic on same lines... which I have thot of writing.
I think its the quality of life, money, facilities that make people to decide upon staying back.
So if facilities and the quality of living improves, I am sure there will be a lot of people who will think about coming back...
And I have found lot of women like to stay back here because of the amount of freedom that they get here compared to India.
I am not trying to justify or anything, because I agree with your points 100%. I am trying to reason out why people choose to stay at a foreign country compared to being in India.
I fall in one of the exemption cases that you have listed. So these are just observations from my side.

Karthika said...

Good post...

//And I have found lot of women like to stay back here because of the amount of freedom that they get here compared to India.//

KK - I agree with you on this. I was talking to a couple of my friends and no one wants to move back. I was shocked when most of them said the very same freedom as the reason....

I think its a personal choice, grass is always greener on the other side.

- Karthika

Badhri said...

People go abroad because of opportunities. People stay abroad because of opportunities + quality of life + of course, money.

People have comeback from US to india because of opportunities.

The real incentive for one to come back to in India is

- one is social enough to change the society for better Quality of life.

- when govt. allows opportunities competitive to what abroad offers!

I would encourage to every one in India to explore the world, so they know what India lacks and improve on.

Lot of those who stay abroad pump in a lot of investments here (=> opportunities)

Lot of those who come back do a rebuilding like NGOs, activism etc (=> Q of life).

All this is the root cause of venturing out! Leaving home is definitely good. Only, it puts you in nostalgia some times.
Incidentally, I have addresses the very subject on a different note @
overtea.blogspot.com

The Talkative Man said...

yen blog-la mattum-nu nenachen..indha 'next post pls?' comment ooru(ulagam?) fulla irukku?!? :D

:: The Protector :: said...

nalla palagham..... keep it up ;)

Cheers
:)

PS: time 4 next topic :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ KK
//And I have found lot of women like to stay back here because of the amount of freedom that they get here compared to India.//

I felt the same :D But was cautious not 2 make it a gender based topic :P and hence ignored that part..Hehehe..
To all MISS & MRS :P Naa onumey solala ;)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Karthika
Welcome here :)

//I think its a personal choice, grass is always greener on the other side.//

Well said..And was nt able 2 access 2 ur page..Next time when u drop in pls leave ur page url :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Badhri

//The real incentive for one to come back to in India is

- one is social enough to change the society for better Quality of life.

- when govt. allows opportunities competitive to what abroad offers!//

That was a good analysis :) I agree going abroad has all benefits..Am just talking about staying there forever/ for long..

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Talkative man
U meant my comments or others? In any case wts the big deal? :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Protector
Hahaha.. U r sportive! :)

Sriram Varadharajan said...

Nice one. But somehow can not agree in full.

My days(Gops) said...

//Till the age of 21 or 22 we are busy with our studies.//

not only with our studies but also with sports,friends,ooru suthing, etc etc.....

First of all..,
u got to lose sumthing to get sumthing.. :))

My days(Gops) said...

//all about spending 20 years of mechanical life at home land and then flying away from home and spending the rest of your life miles away???//

well said.....

not all gets the oppurtunity to get settled in their homeland...
(if u decide sumthing, the time decides sumthing).........

My days(Gops) said...

50'ku oru apple juice kodunga..

My days(Gops) said...

unmai'a puttu puttu'nu pottu thaaki irrukeenga....

Konjam Yosikanum'nu nerai'a peru solli irrupaaaanga..,


//going abroad but staying there forever//
but, naan'um unga katchi thaaan...

Really a nice post....

Vik said...

To begin with,appreciate your comment and yea it was nice to get such comments like those.

And I chanced on your latest blog, (Re: staying abroad for long), well there are pros and cons to it and what you addressed is the cons of staying abroad, I think. Sometimes there are more than what we can actually think. And people get stuck for some reasons but the feeling of emptiness is well said and I abide by what you thought so.. It is nice knowing you... Do drop in whenever you get a chance to read over.

Later then

Usha said...

adhavadhu pons, naanga ellam en onsite porom-na engaloda petrorgalai sandosha padutha dhan :)) They get some pride out of saying that their son/daughter is abroad. Appurama we bring them here to stay, and take them around, spend some time and all that.So nee ivalo engalai thitta vendam ;)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Sriram
Yeah I know :)

Ganesh Ranganathan said...

I think people should have it in them to return to their homelands after spending time abroad and then contribute to development here. But this cannot be forced and they should do it of their on accord.

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Gops
//First of all..,
u got to lose sumthing to get sumthing.. :))//

Rite than..But ethukaga etha miss panromgrathu thaan mukiyam :)

To earn 2 buy/build a house one cannot afford 2 lose the affection and love :) Illaya?

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Gops

//(if u decide sumthing, the time decides sumthing)...//

Philosophy'kellam i donno 2 reply :P

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Gops

//50'ku oru apple juice kodunga..//

Juice kedachutha? Appy juice :D

//unmai'a puttu puttu'nu pottu thaaki irrukeenga....

Konjam Yosikanum'nu nerai'a peru solli irrupaaaanga..,//

Amam :)

//Really a nice post....//

Thanku! :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Vik

//And people get stuck for some reasons but the feeling of emptiness is well said and I abide by what you thought so.//

True, agreed! :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Usha

//They get some pride out of saying that their son/daughter is abroad. //

Agreed. :) Pride ellam konja naal thaan.. May b say max 5 years..Athukapram ter r occasions which wud make one aloof frm their loved one's :)

Vitta katchi thodangiduveenga pola ;) Hehehe. Orey NAANGA NAANGA mayama irukey :P

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Ganesh
//But this cannot be forced and they should do it of their on accord.//

Hm.. Our thoughts might trigger them 2 realize & act accordingly. :)

Delhi_Tamilan said...

vrey good post yaar.. truly lot of guys and gals need to know that as well.. i truly admire ur way of writing.. keep going..

Arunkumar said...

i personally feel therez no point in settling down here. what we loose in that case will definitely outweigh what we gain. basically i concur with ur thoughts.

If our average lifespan is say 65 yrs and given the fact that money and career (read global exposure) are so vital in life,i dont see anything wrong in spending upto 10yrs (15% of ur life) abroad :D
epdi?

KK,
saga ippolaam neenga comment potu poyirunda enakku enna comment podradhunne theriyale :P
U r stealing words from my mouth :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Delhi Tamilan
//vrey good post yaar.. truly lot of guys and gals need to know that as well.. i truly admire ur way of writing.. keep going..//

:) Thanku..U made my day ;)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Arun Kumar

//If our average lifespan is say 65 yrs and given the fact that money and career (read global exposure) are so vital in life,i dont see anything wrong in spending upto 10yrs (15% of ur life) abroad :D
epdi?//

Echukuse me.. U didnt read the post properly i guess :) Atleast BOLDla irukratha matum read again kindly..Which wud avoid me repeating the same sentences again :)

KK said...

Ponnarasi madam, unga Tag post panniten... :D time kidaikumbothu vanthu paarunga :)

@Arun: Hehehe athukaaga yetho Gabtain range'ku statistics vechulam comment potu irukeenga.... :D Vaazhga Gabtain!! :D

gils said...

idhu workoutay agathunga...kadal vaanibam seeiya kilambinavanga kaalam thotu ithey kostin thaan...ivlolvum kaasukaga matumna ithan paya pulla ooru vitu poirukathula..antha pakkam manusa sanam epdiirukanga..enna panranga..edamlam epdirukungaratha paakra aasaiyum kooda seruthula... :)

My days(Gops) said...

//Philosophy'kellam i donno 2 reply :P //

point noted....

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ KK
Hehehe..Danks! :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Gils
//ivlolvum kaasukaga matumna ithan paya pulla ooru vitu poirukathula..antha pakkam manusa sanam epdiirukanga..enna panranga..edamlam epdirukungaratha paakra aasaiyum kooda seruthula... :)//

Amam..Neenga solra points rite :) And i agree! But am trying 2 say it wud b better if v pay a visit and get back home.. Paakrathu ok.. Paathutu varanumla??? :>

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Gops
//point noted....//

WHy the why why??? :o

ambi said...

//but rather limit the time spending away from home, friends and relatives.//

valid point. but inga salary!nu sollitu piskothu tharanga.
naangalum ethanai naaluku "maama piskothu!"nu kettutu irukarathu..?
athan escapes of india.

but after 5 yrs inga vanthu thaan ellarum maatu pongal kondaadanum namma ponnarasi maathiri!

unga post message ithu thaane? :p

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Ambi

//but after 5 yrs inga vanthu thaan ellarum maatu pongal kondaadanum namma ponnarasi maathiri!

unga post message ithu thaane? :p//

Aaaha :O Engayo ethayo thappa purinjikiteenga pola irukeeeeeeeeeeeey :P

Ramya said...

I have posted something similar but totally on a different perception and dimension!
And your kosteens have made me re-think my options!
1st time here, hopped in via KK's

Arunkumar said...

hey i did read the post properly. my comment was just my take/calculation on staying x number of yrs here.

never meant to say u r against ppl staying long term here..

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Ramya
Welcome! :) U reminded me of my good school friend. And will visit the page now.. :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Arunkumar
Here'na where? :(

According 2 ur calculation u r gonna stay abroad for sometime and get back rite? Thts wt even i have said :-/

Put it in other words if my perception is wrong from wt u tried 2 convey pls! :)

Raghs said...

hi pons,

hmm. had been absent for sometime thats why no entry!

hmm.. again a good, controversial topic..

i meant to say controversial b'cos the better, final and agreeable answer for this post would be 'it depends on the individual'.. aint i?

well, as most of my friends have given their comments, i dont think i have something to spell newly here..

by agreeing upon karthika's sayings, 'the grass is always greener on the otherside', i too would like to highlight the craze of people to go abroad because of

(a) the initial enthusiasm to fly and live in a different continent & country
(b) a different lifestyle, culture, environment, people, food etc etc
(c) obviously a good expsoure with experience which may yield some credits to the resume
(d) last but not the least MONEY

every1 has their own aspirations in this front.. so the duration of stay is totally dependent on their well and wish + situation demanding.

but i too heard of similar instances wherein the ppl who stay abroad for a long time feel bad later for having missed several aspects whatsoever they might have got it here in their motherland. very true!

one of my good friends also used to say, "i miss the happy occasion of being together with all my family members" - for diwali and pongal! but what to? pros and cons are always there..

off the track, i would like to say one thing.. whatever we say like India is grooming, developing etc etc.. still the so called fundamental SYSTEM has to be improved... i i myself have been experiecing the same and the victim for years..

the best example is, the spelling mistakes all government officials do in NAMES especially.. be it in PAN Card, License, RC Book, Ration Card, Passport.. bcos of their irresponsible nature, its we finally who end up in having a fight or request for more time to get it clarified or cleared at the last moment right...

everytime i suffer, i really get a feeling that i wish i could be the ANNIYAN.. you may laugh.. but its TRUE....this particular thing is very much lacking in our India and should definitely be improved.

This you might never experience in other countires am sure.. though there are so many other aspects of similar kind, i wanted to highlight just one among them.

i think, i have made a big post than yours ;-)

Harish said...

perceptions differ. Some ppl who are career oriented feel they have oppurtunities and settle here. But as u said...we are growing. Home is where the heart is :-)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Raghs

Yeah u cud have made it a post ;)

//but i too heard of similar instances wherein the ppl who stay abroad for a long time feel bad later for having missed several aspects whatsoever they might have got it here in their motherland. very true!//

This is one of the factor that i was trying to explain :)

//everytime i suffer, i really get a feeling that i wish i could be the ANNIYAN.. you may laugh.. but its TRUE...//

Antha oorukulla ulavura ANNIYAN neengathana ;) Kidding! :))

You have pointed many things which i failed 2 realise as well as make a mention ;)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Harish
//Some ppl who are career oriented feel they have oppurtunities and settle here.//
Yeah, but at what cost is the biggest question and is it worth missing those and gaining these- is what makes me wonder :)

Raghs said...

pons..

//Yeah u cud have made it a post ;) //

Sari thaan.. othukkirean...

//This is one of the factor that i was trying to explain :) //

naan illainu sollave illayea.. aaamannu vazhi mozhinju thaanea ivvalavu peria post-ea!! ;-)

//Antha oorukulla ulavura ANNIYAN neengathana ;) Kidding! :)) //

illaingo.. innam avadhaaram edukkalai.. paarppom....

//You have pointed many things which i failed 2 realise as well as make a mention ;)//

SinQ/CosQ!!

Karthik B.S. said...

emma SEma topic! I am TOTALLY with u on this one!

I don't know how people can be so selfish and introverts when it comes to earning money.

I am not sure, i will settle in a foreign country even if i get a chance with a lucrative offer. I prefer to stay at home...

EAST OR WEST, INDIA IS THE BEST!

Karthik B.S. said...

foreign country'la poi settle aaga ninaikravanga first "swades" padatha paaka sollanam.. adhukku apramum avanga angaye irukanamnu ninaicha... their wish! :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Raghs
//naan illainu sollave illayea.. aaamannu vazhi mozhinju thaanea ivvalavu peria post-ea!! ;-)//

Nalla Thamizh! :)

Tanq oru style'a soneengaley..Ayoo pullarikuthu.. Puriya konja neram aachu :(

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Kartik B.S

//I am not sure, i will settle in a foreign country even if i get a chance with a lucrative offer. I prefer to stay at home...//

Nice 2 c :) Poittu earn and come back! :)

//foreign country'la poi settle aaga ninaikravanga first "swades" padatha paaka sollanam.//

Swades movie naanum innum paakala :P

Raghs said...

pons,

//Nalla Thamizh! :) //
Nandri.

//Tanq oru style'a soneengaley..Ayoo pullarikuthu.. Puriya konja neram aachu :(//
Courtesy: My Student who had actually sent an SMS 2 yrs back.

@Karthik BS,
i m also yet 2 c Swades!

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Raghs
Student'a??? U r teacher/lecturer/professor??? Where?? :O Just out of curiosity..If its 2 personal 2 answer feel free 2 ignore my questn :)

The Talkative Man said...

impeacha?? vara vara inga arasiyalum thathuvamum kodi katti parakudhu...planning to start a TV show? :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ TTM
Nalla irukey yosanai ;) Hunting Host??? Wt say?

Who! me? said...

Oh whoa whoa!!! Ponnu! Now I feel like a sinner...lol. I havnt been home for the past four years and dont plan of going back for the next four either. When I mean home, I also mean India.

Not that I'm at this end, but just saying that saying back isnt good or that its wrong is wrong again, coz we never know the real reason for choosing to stay here, at time it can also be compulsions.


Cheers,
NY?

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Who me
Was wondering who this is..And gotcha i knw u :P

Very true! As days pass by we will nt know wt for the visit is... Hahaha..

Aravind said...

hey.. recent-aa swades paathiya??


BTW, coming to ur blog after a longgggg time... My bloglines somehow didnot alert me of ur new posts, for quite sometime!!

rajkingme said...

Wow what an emotional and thought provoking topic. This had not that much impact on me, since im not going anywhere other than India. but others who whish to settle there would here a yell from this post.. nice overall :)

Awatts said...

Daily unga blog visit panren aana comment vidala avlothaan...thanks for being a regular visitor to mine!

sowmya said...

adengappa...! eppdinga ivlo comments padikareenga...

Nice blog with lot of interesting contents.

Contented said...

Good one! Nice points there to think about...:)

Contented said...

forgot to mention, you in my blogroll. Hope you dont mind...:P

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Aravind
I dont watch Hindi movies..KHNH was the only one i saw.
Good 2 c u here :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@Rajkingme
Good 2 know that u r gonna b in India! :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Awatts
Yen blog enna newspaper'a? Hahaha.. Glad 2 know u visit daily but wud b apreciated if u lemme know tht u read ;) by some means.. :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Sowmya
:) Welcome here..

And thanks for the compliments! :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Contented
Thanku for the nice words! :) I envy ur display name! :D

//forgot to mention, you in my blogroll. Hope you dont mind...:P//

Hehehe..Ofcourse not! :D Am glad and hope u r glad as well seeing my blog roll :P

Cha romba chinna pulla thanama pesikiromey... Hehehe

Raghs said...
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Raghs said...

//Student'a??? U r teacher/lecturer/professor??? Where?? :O Just out of curiosity..If its 2 personal 2 answer feel free 2 ignore my questn :)
//

pons,
there is nothing like PERSONAL and all..yes Of Course i was a LECTURER in my department and college where i graduated my bachelors. (Amrita, Coimbatore).

One more info: Lecturing job is my dream profession which i even do at present whenever possible.

After being in this industry for sometime, i would be going back as a Lecturer ;-)

Contented said...

//Cha romba chinna pulla thanama pesikiromey... Hehehe\\

Though I dont speak tamil, I could understand what it means.

Its not at all childish, and there is nothing beautiful than being a child sometimes....:)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Raghs
Wow.. Thats great and amazing. Am glad that i happened 2 meet such a person :) Not all follow their dreams and reach it! :) Wish u get back 2 ur dream profession soon...

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Contented
//Its not at all childish, and there is nothing beautiful than being a child sometimes....:)//

Mokka da saami! :P Hehehe.. U dont know Thamizh sure? :)) Kidding.. Yeah u r rite :) Agreed.

Driver said...

Strange to hear about a topic I often come across and love to debate about from someone in India who has never (I assume) had an outing yet. The early bird prize goes to you.

Raghs said...

//Not all follow their dreams and reach it! :) //

Well Said.. Depends on the Situation, people get deviated. Very true..

//Wish u get back 2 ur dream profession soon... //

Thanks for the wishes Ponnarasi.

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Driver
Welcome here :)

Ur assumption is rite :)But U never left wt u feel abt this issue.. :>

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Raghs
My pleasure.. :)

Driver said...

I strongly believe in returning home but I can't and won't preach until and unless I practice.

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Driver
//I strongly believe in returning home but I can't and won't preach until and unless I practice.//

Wise & nice reply :)

Delhi_Tamilan said...

adutha post poda time achungoo..

Sathish said...

mmmmm.....

Ram said...

Ponnarasi,
Settling there is not right, we can maybe go there stay for a max of 5 or 6 years and return. We should do something for India.

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Delhi Tamilan
Hehehe. Amam. Am working on something if its gonna b worth mentioning here will make a post very soon! :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Sathish
Welcome! :) First time seeing u here.. "mmmm" nu oru comment? Purilaye!

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Ram
Yeap..Agreed! :)

The Talkative Man said...

cha, commented in prev post hehe. where is next? :)

Gopalan Ramasubbu said...

Ponnarasi,

யாதும் ஊரே, யாவரும் கேளிர் ;)

Anony said...

Well dear ITS TIME for the next post. Is it gonna b the proposal poem on feb 14th? LOL!

My days(Gops) said...

enna'nga going abroad'nu title vachitu escape aaagiteengala abroad'ku?

post'a matthumey...
(chennai slang'la padinga :)) )

My days(Gops) said...

125 adichiten...

oru packet bakkoda plz..

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ TTM
Hehehe..Romba theliva irukeenga pola irukey ;)

Next is hidden somewere ;) Find :P

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Gopalan
Hm.. :) Vaanga!

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Anony
JoblesS???

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Gops
Hehehe :P Illa illa..Etho Iruken..;)

And parcel vanthucha??

Vicky Goes Crazy... said...

hmmm again a good post ... very common thing which all parents fear when sendin their children to otther coountries but then accept coz they dnt wnt to stop their children growth ..

my dad sometimes says dnt go feraing i mite settle dwn there :D .. but im firm n the point tat i will come back to chennai few years after i work their n case i go .. coz we need to have a good nice living here .so go earn and come back settle here .. after all namma entha naatuku sonthomo anga than nammaku mariyathai irukum moreover chennai is cheaper .. cultural values iruku ... US na for kids its not good :) ... so chennai s hte best to settle :) ..

Adaengappa !! said...

Hey,
Pretty good post...Naan solla nenachatha mela makkal ellorum sollitaanga !!(read thru all 130 comments..:-)

Anyways,neenga eppo visa vaanga poreenga ?

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Vicky
//ery common thing which all parents fear when sendin their children to otther coountries but then accept coz they dnt wnt to stop their children growth ..//

Very true! :) Agreed...
And good 2 c u being very firm in ur decision.. :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Adeangappa
Welcome here :)

Visa'va :)) Enna Laddu vangra maari kekreenga :P

pulsar said...

I came to Chicago to study and right now I'm just doing that or seem to be doing that. My major reason was my total passion for Computer Games. Being a creative person, I would love to make games some time in the near future.

@Neo
//India is developing a lot, and we get decent pay here plus foreign trips for 6 months to 1 year shouldnt be an issue...//
@Ponnarasi
//Very true. When we get everything here Y miss something and go there ;)//
Are you sure we get everything??
High quality(I mean it!!!) higher education is not that prevalent and accessible yet. (unless you are the lucky one in an IIT or an IIM)

But, from the bottom of my heart I would always like to be an Indian Citizen. An avid traveler, I've been to a lot of countries and I love the Japanese entertainers as much as I love the Koreans, the French, Americans, Spanish, Argentinians and of course Kollywood.. Accessibility to study stuff on various subjects ranging from Virtual Reality/Cinematography to Typography to Digital Photography to whatever we want is much more than what is available in India. As much as I'd like to stay back in Madurai eating parotta/chalna all week and raising a nice family and kids, my adventurous heart speaks to me otherwise. I miss India, I visit it every year. I'd like to be a nomad, learning all along the way staying/working in challenging multicultural environments. USA is one of those environs.

Vinod R Iyer said...

Had written something in the same lines a while back . Just cant figure out how money can play such an overwhelming role in everyone's life.So much so that they forget their roots..

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Pulsar
Good 2 c a person who follows his passion :) Not all does that.

All the very best in the venture of making games :) Waiting 2 c those :)

Agreed, India is still improving and no way in comparison with developed countries. My point is gain knowledge or money but make sure you return to the home land :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Vinod
Yeap well said!
Forgetting the roots is what is bothering :)

Adiya said...

24 /7 blog, orkut support is it. ?

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Adiya
I demand an explanation for ur comment.. :)

Karthik Sriram said...

from what i've heard from people back in india, the work which people do there are just plug and play type which may not be attrative to a few. See the post here:
9and3quarters.blogspot.com

this might be one reason for people moving out of india

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Kartik
Yeap heading 2 tht link! And welcome here! :)

Adiya said...

illa indiailla enna time atchu.. thats what i asked. 24/7 blogg/orkut support aa nnu.. :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

Oh time ennanu keteengala! Dumeel kuppam/guduvancherry is also in INDIA! hahahahaheheheohoho!

So ungalukku enna time'o athuthan India'layum! :D

Adiya said...

amma Dumeel kuppam patti enga time vera inga.. adhu dhaan..
en time 4.00pm inna unga time 2.30am aa erukum.. appo enga area eppadi erukum innu paruinga.. :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Adiya
Theriyumey :P Neenga time ketapavey ithu yetho velinaatu scene'nu nenachen! :))

Vicky Goes Crazy... said...

this was a situation once nt anymore ... fyi few weeks back new s nri's are returning back to india n settling back here ..

around 300 americians wree in induction program in INFY campus as they were recruited in US and now deployed by inf india :) ..

so dntworry brain drain isnt happening anymore n few years as kalam dreamt india will grow :) ..