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Friday, December 29, 2006

Saddam executed! Is this justice???

Terrorists are people who are to be alienated or punished?
Am not justifying their actions rather trying to see the other side of the coin
Terrorists are after all working for a social cause unlike us the people and the politicians. They don’t demand for lakhs and crores to make a sophisticated living. Instead they are sacrificing their lives for their people to make the people live. Whereas politicians like Mr Bush ,Mr Blair are being paid to invade a country’s privacy and these politicians are doing things to make their living. Are they working for a common cause like the Terrorists.
Why are terrorists created?
When your voice and desires to be fulfilled happen to reach deaf ears, you naturally try to take a powerful weapon to make things done. At times this weapon happens to be violence/terrorism.
When Bush and Saddam are like two kings to each of their countries, who gave the power to Bush to invade other country. Well, he did suspect that death causing weapons are being made and he found nothing of that sort. Is it not time for him to feel guilty for this first of all? Is it not other countries responsibility to warn U.S not to enforce power on Iran this way? Is it not the responsibility of everyone living in this world to raise voice for such an injustice?
Death Penalty for Saddam:
Punishment for even the most heinous crimes should have the intent to reform the convict. The death penalty helps neither the accused not society. It only creates hatred and more rivalry.
Whatever be the case, Finally a great man is dead.
May it be Veerappan or Saddam or Osama, they have some notion. And that is not self centered like the others in the world. If we say Mahatma, Nehru or any other freedom fighter is great. Even these people are great and to be respected in some other way. Everyone falls under one category “Fighting for common cause”, “Sacrificing their lives for others well being”. Terrorists are not after all fools to alienate themselves and make the toughest living.
Ask a poor or a rich What his ultimate aim in life is One’s might be to earn money,fame or to get his/her true love. But it all leads to HAPPINESS . One after all wants to be happy. And so does the terrorists feel.
Happiness and fulfillment will come to you not when you are making yourself the centre of your universe but when you forget yourself and look outside.
Sacrifice something for someone and you will know what real happiness is. Initially you might feel aloof from the world or even a loser but in the long run you will feel proud of yourself : )
Disclaimer: Am not saying all that Saddam did was right.. Rather the way he or this issue was treated is bad. Him killing many people is a differnet issue 2 b dealt with. Am just talking about a ruler being treated like this is unfair.

103 comments:

Nirek said...

Saddam sethu ponathuku evalo varutham padakoodathu!
He is not a good guy at any point in his life. May be the way US and UK forced him to death is wrong, but he deserves a painful death!

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Nirek
:|
//He is not a good guy at any point in his life//
Ithuthaan idikuthu... He was gud atleast for his people..

Badri said...

Saddam is not a terrorist, he's an evil dictator!
"Rendu mola kayaru...athum Iraq selavu..People of Halabja , Kurds , Shia Muslims & religious leaders,all would be happy"

Harish said...

As you aid...US had no right to interfere in their affairs..
btw..did they find the weapon of mass desctruction they started to find out in first place :-)

Neo said...

Reply koncham perusa ayiduchu.. so posted it in my blog he he!!!. In short i agree with you partially. Thooku thandanai koncham jaasthi nu nenaikuren.

mystery said...

hey..i agree with u...for watever saddam did...he can be punished...but hanging him was one step ahead taken by bush....i personally think that bush is just trying to take revenge from his part...

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Badri
Is he the only evil dictator in the world??? When others are left 2 live hapily...Y only him???

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Harish
Yeah..When they found nothing bt distrbed a country's peace under the name of searching weapons..
Bush startd the drama saying they r searching weapons then y was saddam captured..He played cheap trick.

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Neo
Hm.. Naa onnum sela vekkanumnu solala.. @ the same time this is nt the way some1 treats a ruler..

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Mystery
// personally think that bush is just trying to take revenge from his part//

Exctly..I Wonder every1 was jus a silent spectator for this....

Crizette said...

Saddam is an evil dictator, but executing him doesn't serve anybody justice. I would rather say, executing him is much likely revengeful than being able to serve justice to the crime
he committed.

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Crizette
Welcome here.. Yeah..Agreed!

Ravi said...

hmmm ..
wat saddam done .. was not bad .. but wat US did is certainly not good ...

"..exection" thats too high .. and a pretty gud drama .. to show the domination of US .. no one to protest ... no one to stop ..

..of course no one to listen ..
thatz clearly understood by the way saddam was .. standing at the gallows .. he deserved a better death than this ..

well .. putting across all the sorrows behind .. where ppl are ready to face this new year with all new hopes.. its a dark silence .. at the end of the year ...

Ravi said...

athu seri ..

new year wish panna vanthane .. but .. u reminded the hasty thing that was running low and dark at every minds .. abt the execution of saddam .. and hence forgot to wish u ..

ne'way .. wishing u a very happy and a prosperous new year ..
and thanks a ton for making this year more cheerfull..

Delhi_tamilan said...

//Is he the only evil dictator in the world??? When others are left 2 live hapily...Y only him???

Enna avan dhan mattikitan pavam...

edhuva irundhalum.. ennavo manasuku konjam pavama dhan irundhadu when the other guys were explaning to him how thy are going to hang in (just few mins b4 his death.) TV la parkum polundhu..

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Ravi
Yeah... U r rite :) Even i never wanted the year 2 end this way.. Where all of us were helpless...Unable 2 do anything agaisnt injustce..

Thanku.. Wish u a very happy new year!

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

//thanks a ton for making this year more cheerfull//

Really???? ;)
I thot i buged with couple of my posts which i delted later :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Delhi Tamilan
Yeah.. Puli'ya erumbu kadikka vechu kola panna maari irunthuchu... Tht was really very bad and hurting...

And welcome here sir :)

HAppy new year! :)

The Talkative Man said...

happy new yearrrrr!
(april 14th thirumbi varathaan poren...seri pozhachittu ponga :D)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ ttm
Purilaye.. :-/

kiraN said...

2007 The Year with best

Do you know the specialty of this NEW YEAR?????

It starts with MONDAY and ends also on MONDAY

No PUBLIC HOLIDAYS on SUNDAYS

This year has got highest number of SUNDAYS and SATURDAYS

Enjoy the least working year in your life

--------------------
kiraN

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Kiran
Tht was a nice info..
Welcome here :)

My days(Gops) said...

saddam oru "terrorists"a? edhuku avar sandai potaaar?
actually speaking, avar'tu flashback'a konjam paaartheeengana, ethanai pera asaalta pottu thalli irrukaar'nu therium... enakkum theriaadhu, but sonnavanga kettu therinchada'la abbbbaaa............
aduku'nu avara hang pannunadha sare'nu solla maaten...
(pity on him.. 3mins'la hang panna poraaanganu therinchum, evlo cool'a guards kitta pesikittu irrundhaaaru paaathengala?)

My days(Gops) said...

sare sare,
Wishing u a Happy New Year 2007.

Chennai said...

1.
//Terrorists are after all working for a social cause unlike us the people and the politicians.//

//When Bush and Saddam are like two kings to each of their countries, who gave the power to Bush to invade other country.//

Saddam is NOT a Terrorist. He is a King. If so, how can you compare his activities with that of a Terrorist. Do you agree that Saddam does some Terrorist activity , by your earlier statements?

2. Just because, someone have power with them, they can't rule the country as they wish. Take the case of Musharaff. Pakistan has seen 3 Military rules as of today. All are worse than the earlier one. Do you mean to say, Musharaff must be Dethroned, becuase he has snatched the power from someone? You well know, Pakistan has Nuclear Devices, and you can try to show the same with proof to the world. If US tries to do the same for its own safety and worlds peace, how come that is wrong?

3. //Whatever be the case, Finally a great man is dead.//

He doesn't deserve the word GREAT. He is a person , who killed 145 people, just to show is powers and get into the throne strongly in late 80's. Even Hitler did the same. Do you mean to say Hitler is also GREAT?

4. //Everyone falls under one category “Fighting for common cause”, “Sacrificing their lives for others well being”. Terrorists are not after all fools to alienate themselves and make the toughest living.//

Fighting for common cause????? Which common cause have you found in them? Who started the Gulf War with Kuwait unncssarily. The Gulf War (2 August 1990 – 28 February 1991) was a conflict between Iraq and a coalition force of,approximately 30 nations led by the United States and mandated by the United Nations in order to reconquer Kuwait.

5. The 180 odd pages of the justice clearly mentioned why the execution is made for saddam. He is a serious killer. This if not stop terrorism, be a warning for those so called Dictators across the world, to fear about their life, if they step forward again to do such criminal activities.

Final Word, the post is totally inclined to NON-BUSH Ruling rather than, about the Neutral stand point of Saddam's Execution. I know this is your Blog and you have every right to post your thoughts, but still as the issue is NOT personal and displayed in a PUBLIC medium, I stringly condemn this post.

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Gops
I was mentiong abt Veerapan as wel.. When he askd for apologies these cowards didnt grant him tht.. Hence the word Terrorist..

Even am talking abt the way Saddam was treated

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Gops
Thanku and wish u the same

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Chennai
1) //Saddam is NOT a Terrorist. He is a King. If so, how can you compare his activities with that of a Terrorist. Do you agree that Saddam does some Terrorist activity , by your earlier statements?//
I have mentioned abt Veerapan & Osama as well...And hence the word TERRORIST..
Good u mentioned he is a KING.. Yeah is this the treatmnt a king deserves??? Am nt justifyng but @ the same time..In what way Bush invites himslf 2 other countris internal issues????

My days(Gops) said...

//Thanku and wish u the same
//

naan wish u the same'nu solla'laiey? "Wishing u a Happy New Year 2007" thaaney sonneN?
:))

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

2) //Just because, someone have power with them, they can't rule the country as they wish//
This is ur statment and it holds good for Bush as well..
Jus bcoz Bush has power does'nt mean he can do anyting with other countries..
//If US tries to do the same for its own safety and worlds peace, how come that is wrong?//

Oh????For its own safety u can do anything??? Destroy country's peace? Tak charge of the country saying u suspect tht the country is having mass destruction weapons???? Under the name "search" these US miltry can kill any number of people in other country???
And for god sake pls dont use world peace and Bush or U.S 2getr...

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

3) Killing tht many ppl is a difrnt isue... First of all he didnt have proper ground 2 explain his side.. Or justify himself..
Changing lawyers and threating them..All these didnt leave Saddam strong support 2 explain...
The way the case was handled is itself another injustice..

4) And ur version abt the war is agreed. Y did Bush get involved in this? Y was the whole trial session like "Capturing Lion and keeping in Fox's territory and having the trial????"

5)//Final Word, the post is totally inclined to NON-BUSH Ruling rather than, about the Neutral stand point of Saddam's Execution. I know this is your Blog and you have every right to post your thoughts, but still as the issue is NOT personal and displayed in a PUBLIC medium, I stringly condemn this post. //
Hm.. Let me clear few things
Saddam killing many ppl is bad. Agreed But Y Bush here??? During Katrina,Rita etc Bush disagreed to do precautionaries and this lead to killing of many people... What role does he have? So who is gonna hang him for being a reason 2 lose so many lives???

Above all Did he find any weapons as said? Being a ruler he shud have felt guilty.
IF BUSH is also 2 b hung then right the case is genuinely judged.

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Chennai
Am really glad 2 c ur response.. I warmly invite critics.. Becoz it makes us think on a 3rd eye..Unbiased eye..

On the whole u still more increased the respect I had for Saddam and also increased the disrespect on Bush.. The look on his face during last moment on earth.. Thts simply great.
That speaks thousand words

Let me not forget 2 give a warm welcome to my blog :)
Welcome... I guess its ur first time...

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Gops
Mannikkavum :)
Iniya piranthu naal vaazhthugal :)

Chennai said...

I again say the same thing. You are looking this issue @ Anti-Bush activity rather than into the real , unbiased way as it should be.

Take the example of India. Rajeev Gandhi has sent his troops to Sri Lanka to bring back peace. Why the hell he should do that?

Take Indria Gandhi, when it is was a internal problem for West Pakistan (Now Bangaladesh), why she have to send the troops and defeat the Pakistan and get liberalization to that country?

If you think these both have done something that had brought peace to these nations, then what is wrong with BUSH has done? Isn't this contradictry?

If you say that what Rajeev done was wrong, then you mean to say that whatever Prabakaran has done to Rajeev was also correct. Is that so? ;)

Think laterally. That's fine, but don't think beyond the reality. Anyways, it was a pretty good post, after a long time, I had regained my Brain Power.

BTW this isn't my First Visit ;)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

//Rajeev Gandhi has sent his troops to Sri Lanka to bring back peace. Why the hell he should do that?//
Intha kathaya ellam pesa vendam... Athellam pesna TRUST ME blog naaridum :|
The troop Rajiv sent there did someting else than wt tey were sent for..
And hence his death ended in tht way.

Seri athellam venam, Saddam is 2 b punished but nt this way and BUSH is also 2 b punished.
THIS id ithaan 1st time..May b u r nt the 1st time visiotr :)
Yaaru ithu?? :)

Chennai said...

I strongly recommend you to read

1. The Gulf War Chronicles by Lowry
2. Seeing through the Media by Jeffords
3. War on Iraq: What Team Bush Doesn't Want You to Know

You better get an idea, what has happened in reality. The Third book would give you idea what Bush had in his mind while taking decisions on Iraq. I am inclining to Bush' decisions. This book is completely against what Bush has did to Saddam. Read them, it would be useful for you.

//THIS id ithaan 1st time..May b u r nt the 1st time visiotr :)
Yaaru ithu?? :)//

May be previously I haven't given out my id :)
I know you. You know me. Keep guessing, will meet in your next post comments :D

The Talkative Man said...

poko,
thamizh puthaandukku vazhthu solla thirumbi vara poren-nu sonnen ;)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Chennai
Books 2 get an idea??? Hahaha...

1) This trial was free and fair?
2) Killing 148 Shias- Saddam deserves execution. If this is justice, then killing of 600,000 Iraqis during this invasion. How many times Bush is 2 b hung?
3) On the whole a country which was kept united and under control for 25 years is disturbed greatly.
What punishment for this now???
4) Shias and Sunnis are still going to be rivalries for years. Who is going to take responsibilty?
Oil was the only thing that made americans 2 do all these. So 2 take control of this Bush and Tony has done all that has 2 b done.

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ TTM
Aaaha.. Unga display name maathanum romba naala solren... Kekka matenringa :P

Apr 14th varaku mouna virathama??? :P

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Chennai
By the way, Anonymous comment vara koodathunnu atha thookunen :)) Ithu enna puthu technique????

jayakarthik said...

hey ponni, first of all let me WISH U A VERY HAPPY HAPPY NEW YEAR, MAY ALL UR DREAMS COME TRUE, AND KEEP BLOGGING.....

regarding saddam, first of all i am against the death sentence, we are no GOD to punish people with death sentence, probably they could have given him life imprisonment.Dont no what this US is thinking of itself,(probably ruler of world)sariyana loosu pa indha bush, avan irukum varai indha naadu urupadadhu, what do u say ponni?

My days(Gops) said...

//Iniya piranthu naal vaazhthugal :) //

inga paaruda, happy new year solla sonna, ennanamo solluraaanga?

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Jayakartik
Hehehe... Ayoo Ipdi sonna evlo santhosama irukku theriyuma ;)

Very true!

Happy new year! :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Gops
Hahaha Semma comedy ponga :P
Naa advance'a wish pannen for ur bday.. Hehehe.. Ithu puriyama...

Thavarukku varunthugiren :D
Puthandu Nal vazhthugal!

Appadi olunga soliten... :)

My days(Gops) said...

oh appppa sare....,
New year'ku b'day wish sonna maaadhiri, B'day ku new year wish solla mateeengaley? :))
lol...
thanks for ur wishes...

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Gops
Haahahaha..Asingapaduthiteenga...

Ram said...

Ponnarasi,
Sadam did the same thing to many ppl. He just killed them bcoz they were from some sect of Muslims, he has now paid the price for what he did in the past.
Coming to Bush, he had indirectly killed many ppl just bcoz they were Iraqis, he ll pay his due in future thru' some other person. It is a never ending cycle. Dont support Sadam while attacking Bush, both are criminals.
If capital punishment is not gonna do any gud to the society, what shud we do? shall we set them free, by saying "Inimeyaavadhu thirundhi Vaazhu" will u say the same to terrorists who ruthlessly kill several hundreds in Kashmir and all parts of the world?
"Terrorism comes when ppl say something into deaf ears and want it to be heard by every one so they plan a strong weapon".
Hmmmmm. Pakistan needs Kashmir, will any Indian be ready to hear this? Asking a meaningless or absolutely ridiculous thing and blaming the authorities for being deaf is not a justification for extremism. Take the example of Maoists in Nepal. They fought for democracy which to some extent agrees with ur principle of terrorism, but al qaeda, LeT, Mujahideen are all lunatics who want to realise impossible things and take terrorism as a means. Dont support them. BTW i ll post soon on this for ppl who oppose Saddam's execution.

Chennai said...

@ Ram -> XLNT Comment
@ Ponnarasi Kothandaraman -> :P

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Ram
C there is no point in telling dont supprt them. They are doing somthing for some1 (people). Atleast they are supporting a set of people..
Anyways as far as this issue is concerned..

1) This trial was free and fair?
2) Killing 148 Shias- Saddam deserves execution. If this is justice, then killing of 600,000 Iraqis during this invasion. How many times Bush is 2 b hung?
3) On the whole a country which was kept united and under control for 25 years is disturbed greatly.
What punishment for this now???
4) Shias and Sunnis are still going to be rivalries for years. Who is going to take responsibilty?
Oil was the only thing that made americans 2 do all these. So 2 take control of this Bush and Tony has done all that has 2 b done.

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Chennai
Athu sari original identity illathavanga ellam ipadi thaan Chingu cha pacha color chingcha manja color jingu cha adikanum :P

Ram said...

Ponnarasi,

"This trial was free and fair?"
Definitely not but the judgement and punishment was fair.

"How many times Bush is 2 b hung?"
I agree with you, Bush has to be hung. Will be thru some other person

"On the whole a country which was kept united and under control for 25 years is disturbed greatly.
What punishment for this now??? "
The country was kept in control by means of tyranny, not by peace. The Shias were denied basic rights and they were forced to be peaceful, do u think that is right?

"Shias and Sunnis are still going to be rivalries for years. Who is going to take responsibilty?"
They will be rivals forever, whether Sadam lives or not is not gonna affect them. Responsibilty is their own.

"Oil was the only thing that made americans 2 do all these. So 2 take control of this Bush and Tony has done all that has 2 b done."
Agree with you, but that in no way means terrorists are heroes and fighting for their people.

"C there is no point in telling dont supprt them. "
There is a point in this.
Every one does something for some one. For eg. ravudis and Dadas like Veeramani, Funk Kumar also did something good to their set of ppl, so are their deeds justified?

Asking the same question again. Will you give Kashmir to Pak just becoz terrorists are doing good to a set of ppl i.e. Pakistanis?
Think abt this. NEVER SUPPORT TERRORISTS. Human rights doesnt apply to them. They r infact not humans at all......

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Ram
//"This trial was free and fair?"
Definitely not but the judgement and punishment was fair//
Hahaha...Funny! How can any1 pass a fair judgement on unfair trial?

//The Shias were denied basic rights and they were forced to be peaceful, do u think that is right?//

If it is true,thts bad. But it is a country's internal issue. Another country shudnt invite itself and mess up.

//but that in no way means terrorists are heroes and fighting for their people.//

These people are trying to save tht source. Is it not a common cause? So i donno i cud only c some1 working for common cause as a hero :)

//Will you give Kashmir to Pak just becoz terrorists are doing good to a set of ppl i.e. Pakistanis?//

Ithenna kathaya iruku.. Naa avanku soru podren so nee enaku sothaye ezhuthi veynu solra maari iruku... Questn is invalid ;)

I dont say whetever terrorists do are right and to be appreciated. But at the same time i wont depreciate them. May be the way they do things are not something to be welcome. If you ask a terrorist he woud say he has no other way than this... :)

Evano yaarukoo suyanalam paakam nallathu panna santhosam thaan pada mudithu :)
Avan yaarukaga panran ethukaga panran becomes secondary...Nallavana kettavana also becomes secondary :)

Ram said...

POnnarasi,
Edhavathu palamozhi solli escape aaga mudiyaadhu. Gimme an answer.
The person working for a common cause is Hero, but what if that common cause itself is stupid?
"May be the way they do things are not something to be welcome"
The way they do things is horrible, it shud be eliminated instead of thinking that to be welcomed or not.
"If it is true,thts bad. But it is a country's internal issue. Another country shudnt invite itself and mess up."
Agreed but what if no one in that country is able to end this. Sadam deserves the doom he faced. Since there was no one who cud do that US did it. U were speakin about invasions right. Sadam invaded Kuwait in 1992. Who gave him the rights?

I know that US is playing the role of Big Brother and it is not gud for any one. All am trying to convey is that dont suport terrorist in your voice against US

kiraN said...

I hate bush.. ^*(&%%$#@&$#@$^%@

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Ram
Hahaha...Boss naa pazhamozhiye solaliye ;)
//but what if that common cause itself is stupid?//
Appears stupid for u but not for all :)

//Saddam invaded Kuwait in 1992. Who gave him the rights?//

Already told i dont say wtever he did was rite. Since Saddam invaded bathilukku bathil panitey irukka mudiyathula :) and athukku support vera ;)

U r yet 2 answer ;) How can any1 pass a fair judgement on unfair trial? The issue here is "trial itself was unfair then how will the judgement b fair???? "

I wont say terrorists did no good :)

You r enititled 2 ur views and so am i :) Saddam execution is a big blunder The consequences will prove that it is :) Lets wait & watch...

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Kiran
Hm... Welcome here :)

Ram said...

POnnarasi,
"Naa avanku soru podren so nee enaku sothaye ezhuthi veynu solra maari iruku"
Idhukku peru palamozhi illama ennavaam. Veetla yaaravadhu periyavanga irundhaa ask them.

The trial was not fair in the sense the way he was treated etc were not fair, but he deserved death sentence and the judge gave him that.Thats y the judgement is fair.

"Since Saddam invaded bathilukku bathil panitey irukka mudiyathula :)"
Appo Sadam kitta enga naata eduthukonga sir nu sollanumaa? Bathilukku bathil sollamudiyaadhunna vera oru alternative sollunga paapom?

"I wont say terrorists did no good"
Gimme some good things terrorist have done. I can give you many bad things.

"Saddam execution is a big blunder"
America's invasion was abig blunder agreed but not Sadam's execution.
I agree that everyone of us entitled to our own views, but supporting terrorists is totally ridiculous. No one can change or impose their views on the other. You ll regret one day for supporing terrorists in the name Anti American sentiments. Will see then.

P.S: I am not pro bush, i 2 hate that !@#@!##. But i hate Sadam and terrorists to the same extent as well. I think we ll stop arguing here, coz this is one of the never ending debates.

Shiv said...

where is the other post?? abt urself...i saw it 15 mins back!!

http://hearitfromshiv.blogspot.com/2006/08/i-me-myself.html

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Ram
Milosevic- Yougoslav president was charged for similar issue like saddam. He treated Bosnian muslims badly. Milosevic was given a fair trial in the International Court. Oorukku oru gnayama???
Visit to know more.... http://hague.bard.edu/

Poonaya thirudunanu pudipangalam aana judgemnt manusana kola panunanu thandana kudupangalam.. WDM kedakkala athukku mothalla shud feel ashame!
1) Saddam was trying to save the oil source from Westerners.
2) He was protecting Sunnis from Shias.
3) Terrorists are not asking for money to make their decent living instead is it not obvious that they are fighting for somthing????
Terrorist ellamey muttal maari illa neenga pesreenga..They have some point and they fight for someting or some1..

Done! Ithoda niruthikuvom.. :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Shiv
Yenna purilaye!
New post'a????

Ram said...

POnnarasi,
Milosevic kadaisila dead in cell, illiya. They have given Sadam forcefully, anyhow both of them got what they deserved, but punishment is when you force a person to death. Idhu adhoda continuation ille. Idhoda niruthikuvom

Ghost Particle said...

wait da minute...wher is my comments...did i leave it in da first place? Oh well...i dont have too...coz like a billion ppl would already comment here anway. I tink the sign in thing ate my comments. sigh...

thanx for the link.

Ghost Particle said...

u kno wat...i tink i really left a comment here!

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Ram
Yeah but i referred 2 the FREE TRIAL IN INTERNATIONAL COURT not the way they were killed :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ GP
Take rest :P

U r not ok i guess ;)

Gladtomeetin said...

Oh God!!! Discussion, Arguement, Justice for Saddam.........

Mmm I came to say a Hi and Happy New year and am back to bloggin :-)

Keep Rocking dearie !

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Glad2meeting....

Wow..Welcome back :)
Happy new year! :)

Karuppan said...

Hey nice post on terrorism ... but instead of justifying saddam's murder, u seem digress and justify terrorism. But u have spend time to tell its root causes. But the terrorist action can never be justified .. that too this is senseless violence they engender.

Saddam is a great leader - I respect him only for his great ability to establish anarchy over a country for these many years and his courage to opposite powerful nations ..but he deserves a death like this.

He wasn't good to his people too. it was fear rather than respect. "His People" here refers only to those who benefitted directly under Saddam. It was not the public that benefitted. And he cant kills 1000s to benefit 100s.

When an assault was launched on Saddam he ended up killing almost 1000s of Shiite Muslims for that -thats not sanity - he shld have dealt the situation fairly and punished the people who assaulted on him
Bush cant be compared with him - When twin towers were destroyed he did not launch a fight on all muslims in the country - they restored sanity and saw to that the christians ddint go and killed the muslims for wat Osama has done. They targetted Osama who conspired it.

Karuppan said...

Moreover Saddam's was not a brutal murder - He was treated very gently - He was allowed to wear the suit to trials - he was given a good accomodation - he was neat and shaved - he was dyed - Do u think they treated him like a 3rd rated criminal? No. They gve him all the respect a ruler deserves until the point he was proved guilty.

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Karuppan
Welcome :)

//They gve him all the respect a ruler deserves until the point he was proved guilty. //

Matter'ey ingathan :) Proved guilty??? Partial and irritating treatment:

1)Saddam's defence lawyeers were threatened, assasinated. And lawyers were given jus 2weeks time 2 read 300pages 2 defend Saddam.

2) Saddam was killed when Eid was in vicinity. This itself was a

3) Agreed! He was good to only a set of people and not 2 all..
But not every1 will sacrifice tehir life or work for others well being :)

4) Considering ur own statemnt //And he cant kills 1000s to benefit 100s. //

Jus after an hour of Saddam's excution, 100's of people were killed. During the invasion 600,000 people were killed. Wts the final point in killing Saddam now???

Coming 2 wt u said :) Jus 2 punish one person is it fair 2 indrctly kill so many ppl??? No1 can or shud kill 10000's to punish one person??? Illaya??

So Bush can b compared even with a worse human. Comparing him with Saddam is a insult 2 Saddam ;)

5) //When twin towers were destroyed he did not launch a fight on all muslims in the country //
Twin tower story is yet another thing which has 2 b discussed..

There were sevral muslims who are still missing.. These muslims were taken by the American Cops.. Who is answerble 2 this?? Intha maari neraya nadakuthu.. Bush ella vagailayum pazhi theethutu thaan irukar..

6) //They gve him all the respect a ruler deserves until the point he was proved guilty. //

Respect???? He expresed tht he shudnt b hung but shot! This was never considered. And telecasting the excution is yet another insult.

//but he deserves a death like this.//

This is bad. If u say he deserves such a bad death jus becoz he killed 148 Shias and torturing them. Then Wt does Bush deserve??

Karuppan said...

ponnarasi . good arguement (i never had few facts before starting one ;) ) ... anyway, im happy i know them now

so here we go...

//Saddam's defence lawyeers were threatened, assasinated. And lawyers were given jus 2weeks time 2 read 300pages 2 defend Saddam.//

Atleast 3 of Saddam judges in case were made to quit (if I am right), 1 kidnapped, a 8yr old son of a judge's bodyguard kidnapped

I am not advocating Bush for wat he is doing - certainly he deserves a gallow next to Saddam's

I cannot justify Bush still being let to roam arnd without being punished - but i can be happy that atleast 1 criminal was killed ( out of two ;) )

but I have my own opinions to suport Saddam's killing. If you look at Saddam's history - its filled with killings and brutal murders for positions in government. His hunger for the position made him kill his own people in masses (often brutally) - i dont remember anything that Saddam sacrificed for his people - he was a leader - a leader always calls for sacrifice and rarely sacrifices himself - Infact he lived in luxury with several wives(lucky chap ;) ) and relatives in a palace -

Okie, now his luxury living doesn't warrant a killing but his brutal killings do -

I remmeber a cartooon about Superman wen I see ur comment on the act of US - A king kong destroys two buldings on a street and superman appears there and fights with king kong and after fewhours of fight, he kills kingkong only to see that they both have destroyed all the buldings on the street (PJ).

I understand that the world is full of disparity - the wrongful acts at highest level of authority covered up and brutal cheap acts punished -
but your arguement is synonymous to
this - if man in Delhi who killed kids needs to be punished (watever his justification be), then politician behind the state sponsored slaughter of muslims a few years ago in Gujarat also needs the same treatment - I completely agree - but the killings in Delhi is more like Saddam's killings - we cannot claim a gentle treatment for the killer - the murders in Gujarat is more like Bush killings (covered by law).. the missings in USA maybe be covered up saying that that is a part of weeding terrorism or intelligence services; but I have read somwhere that all is fair in love n war.

I will give my votes to u if ur verdict is to hang bush also ;)

KK said...

I agree with you that Us has no rights to interfere in other countries affairs...
As you said life sentence only creates hatred and nothing more... kewl post ponnarasi :)

மு.கார்த்திகேயன் said...

சதாமுக்கு கொடுக்கபட்ட தண்டனை சரி தான். ஆனால் அதை உலக நாட்டாமை என்று அமெரிக்கா கொடுத்தது தான் தவறுங்க பொன்னா.. சதாமால் கொல்லப்பட்ட அந்த 148 பேர் இறந்த போது வருத்தப் படாத நாம் இப்போது வருத்தப்படுவது, தந்த தண்டனையால் அல்ல.. தண்டனை தந்தவரால் தான் என்று நினைக்கிறேன்..

ஹிஹிஹி..புது போஸ்ட் போட்டிருக்கேங்க பொன்னா

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dakaltiz said...

Sacrificing himself for the cause of their own people at the expense of killing a grp of innocent ppl!
You say these ppl r great??

I'm not going to comment on saddams execution... but Terrorism is a barbaric act...!

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Karuppan

//the missings in USA maybe be covered up saying that that is a part of weeding terrorism or intelligence services; but I have read somwhere that all is fair in love n war.

I will give my votes to u if ur verdict is to hang bush also ;) //

Hm :) Ithu gnayamana pechu :P

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ KK

//I agree with you that Us has no rights to interfere in other countries affairs//

May b this is one of the reason 2 have a soft corner for killing saddam...

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Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Karthikeyan

//சதாமுக்கு கொடுக்கபட்ட தண்டனை சரி தான்//

Sari'a thappa is a questn only wen the trial is fair..Ithu yen purinjika matenringa yaarum :((

And yeap..on my way 2 ur blog..

Oru reqst pls refer 2 me- PK or Ponnarasi :)

Ponna yaaru athu??? :P

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Dakaltiz
Warm welcome Sir.. :)

Naattama theerpa maathi sollu'ba ;)

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Prasad said...

gnayamana pechunu mudichutinga chaptera.. athula neraya irrelevent comparisions panni iruken... marupadi facts kuduthu adikka poringanu nenchen :( .. nandri hai ! :)

seringa... ungalukku enna theriyanum .. ;) Saddam pathiya :P ?

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Prasad
Hehehe.. Irelevant Exctly :P

Seri ethukku sandaya perusa aakiktu'nu vituten ;)

Saddam pathiyanu cool'a kekreenga..Neenga enna thootha?? :P Aamam'nthu solidatheenga ;) Ulla pudichu potruvaanga :P

Ranjhith said...

Ada inge innoru "princess" irruku? >:O)

"Death Penalties" are given based on the degree of crime. You can't expect this kinda person to rehabilitate himself & do reforms. Would be of no help to this soceity.

The execution got really worse because of the day it was done & because it was shown all over the world. We'll witness its aftermath.

ps: why don't you allow ppl with "NO" blogger/gmail accounts to comment. Just a request!

Ganesh Ranganathan said...

Saddam hussien deserved what he got..but I don't see how the US gets the moral right to hang him..it is the only country to have used the nuclear bomb, it has more nuclear warheads than any other nation, it has killed a huge number of civillians in its quest for hegemony...

This war was not done to liberate people....Americans are not kind enough to spend hundreds of billions of dollars to improve the lives of people of Iraq...the money spent in Iraq is an investment and will start showing returns as soon as the US companies gain full control of the Oil reservoirs...

The same thing will be done to Iran unless it gets nuclear weapons....First Bush will raise a hue and cry about how Iran is a threat to world peace and project himself as a self styled messiah of peace. He will attack Iran and kill hundreds of civilans in the name of liberating them, and no one else including the UN will be able to do anything to stop him apart from issuing hollow statements and staging protests..

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Ranjhith
Welcome here :) First time visitor :)

//"Death Penalties" are given based on the degree of crime.//

Agreed. But is he the only person deserving such punishment?? And wts the point in punishing this way... Aprt frm killing him??? His supporters r nt gonna leave this issue let go.. Its only gonna get worse :) Personal vengeance will b fulfiled :-/

// why don't you allow ppl with "NO" blogger/gmail accounts to comment. Just a request! //

Only frm this post changed the setting 2 "No anonymous comments"... Check out my earlier post comments. :) You would second wt i did was rite ;)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Ganesh
Yeah very true! I cud c many ppl not tolerating wen saying "saddam was nt all tht bad" ;)

Wondering if wud c the same reaction wen some1 says "Bush is a !@#$$%&^**(*!#@#$#$" I dont mean any bad words... Not able 2 find any word ;)

Kettavan Nallavan maari nadichitu KD vela panuna onnum perusa react panida maatom :P Ithey oru kettavamn unmayavey konjam nallathu paana kooda thappa thaan padum...

Ranjhith said...

Helo Goldu,

Thanks for the warm welcome. >:O) I find you to bee good in english. Keep writing.

Assume, Saddam is from Pak, a muslim. He killed a lot of hindus there. Can you have the same defending statements for him too? May be they shud have given imprisonment for his life. But its a waste, you know?

Then, I couldn't exactly get to your comment. But I guess u wanna avoid anonymous comments. But for a dirty mind, its very much easy to create a fake identity. Can't help it.

Probaly ur blogs needs a fresh-new-look. Just felt. Cheers.

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Ranjhith
//But its a waste, you know?//

Death penalty is a waste 2 :)

//Then, I couldn't exactly get to your comment. But I guess u wanna avoid anonymous comments. But for a dirty mind, its very much easy to create a fake identity. Can't help it. //

Hm..If the anonymous comments are about a general issue..Well one has differnt ways 2 handle tht.. But wen those comments happens 2 target personally. Then one has no option than opting 2 NO ANONY comments :)

Agreed! Dirty mind creates yet another fake id and plays around. Fortunately this dirty mind is 2 lazy i guess ;)

//Probaly ur blogs needs a fresh-new-look. Just felt. Cheers//

Hm..really? Kind of obssessed with this template :D Suggest me some templates.. We shall try :)

Vidya said...

You are right !! I did not feel comfortable about the way he was quickly executed and about how his dead body was displayed on National TV. All this started as a chase for Osama !! Now when in the world is the USA going to go after the "real" culprit who took down the twin towers? Instead , they went after Iraq merely as a diversionary tactic and for OIL !!

Hypocrites.. that is what these people are....

Vidya

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Vidya,
Yeah u r rite :)

Hypocrites well said :)

Adiya said...

sudden oru serious post and its my first comment. mm

right from ages iraq & co negatives U(S,k) & co .. well thats been told, condemned by many people.. what is the insane part which i am not able to digest in recent past is.. his execution being show in t.v ? ok well media minting it .. but our fellow people forwarding those clips to 100 people for 100 times. enna kodumai ethu mm.. i donna where are we heading to...

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Adiya
Welcome! :)

Sudden'a serious post'na purilaye... Athepdi 1st time'laye solreenga

Yeah the video broadcasting was very bad! Well said no1 knows wer al tese wud lead 2 :)

Ancient Clown said...

The lies & corruption surrounding this man Saddam,(put in power by the U.S.), is another example of how serious the trouble is for the rest of us who sit in silence while war-mongers spread lies for selfish purposes.
In not standing against them, we sit by their side as they continue commiting immoral crimes against GOD & LAW. When the line was drawn in the sand...how many stood and crossed it to stand against them?
How many closed their bank accounts, withheld their taxes, stood in front of their embassy in disgust, refused to finance mass murder?
We've all heard the lies, George Bush stated, and how he was doing GOD's work and following Jesus, that he had to eliminate the threat of "WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION".
Lets review the TRUTH.
Who FACTUALLY has weapons of mass destruction...Iraq or the U.S.?
GOD says "Thou shall not commit murder."
GOD says; "Vengence is mine."
Jesus says; "Love thine enemy."
These weren't and still aren't the ACTIONS of Mr. Bush, so who's side is he REALLY on?
As far as I'm concerned, these countries that are pretending to spread demon-hypocracy, should be facing murder charges for the deaths of every man, woman & child that was not in uniform and STILL died from cowardly attacks.
These countries should be charged with murder for every land mine that still goes off, though the pretense of war is gone, the attacks remain.
As far as I'm concerned, George Bush should be put on trial as a war criminal & false prophet, along with EVERY SINGLE SUPPORTER.
As far as I'm concerned, people might want to STOP following these devils whose path leads straight to the "Lake of Fire", because it is by YOUR actions that your fate shall be decided...not George's or Saddam's.
Perhaps I need to have some milk & honey and end this RANT.
your humble servant,
ancient clown

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Ancient clown
Yeah valuable comments :)

Your comments conveys more than my post actually does :) Am glad!

The Devil said...

//When your voice and desires to be fulfilled happen to reach deaf ears, you naturally try to take a powerful weapon to make things done. At times this weapon happens to be violence/terrorism.//

I think this weapon should be unleashed on the top honchos and the diplomats who just meddle with politics to fatten their already widened bank accounts and not on the poor civilians who dont even know why they are attacked for. Thats what makes terrorism gory and people hate them hell-like

//Is it not other countries responsibility to warn U.S not to enforce power on Iran this way? Is it not the responsibility of everyone living in this world to raise voice for such an injustice?//

Yes, its our responsibility. But who has the 'dhil' to stand up against US. They are the super power and they have everything under their control. Can you please any Sanctions, Curbs against US?

The Devil said...

Is death a suitable method to redeem a person? Well each one has their own view on the same. Do you think Moninder Singh(Nithari Killings) should be redeemed? Forgiving is divine, but it should not throw a bad benchmark to people, who goes on a killing spree with a thing in mind that, anyway we wont be hanged...but the way the punishment is meted out can be changed....they should be undergone the same mental/physical trauma as the person on whom they did some crime...then they can get a feel of it and it may leave a far better impression not to inflict such wound on anyone else more...
Yes, Saddam could have been treated a better way...the punishment had US stamp written all over it

The Devil said...

I feel the root cause mentioned by you is correct. Those should have been dealt with properly. But as long as the terrorists punish the poor civilians and they dont want to come to table and sort things out, sadly attacks will happen :(
A good post...i liked the way it ended....ultimately everyone wants to live happily :)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ The Devil
Welcome here :)

//Thats what makes terrorism gory and people hate them hell-like//

Yeah the reason u have mentioned is agreeable :)

//Can you please any Sanctions, Curbs against US? //

Irrelevant questn :)

Dhil venum athellam rite.. But not every1 can afford 2 try tht.. Responsible political ppl can/ should do tht...

Proper backup illama kalathula eranga mudiyathula ;)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

Ellarum thappu panrangannu generalise panna mudiyathu..

Suyanalathukaga thappu panravanum pothu nalathukkaga panrathum onnaguma???

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Devil

//But as long as the terrorists punish the poor civilians and they dont want to come to table and sort things out, sadly attacks will happen :( //

Rite than :)

Gopal Aggarwal said...

whether a person is a freedom fighter or a terrorist, depends upon which side of the border you are?

think

(:D Gopal Aggarwal)

Ponnarasi Kothandaraman said...

@ Gopal
Welcome :) Guess this is ur 1st time :)